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« on: May 09, 2006, 03:11:18 PM »

Question: How old do wizards get in the CtS universe?

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Well ... this is a tricky question, really.

Those of you who have read our well hidden page about the creation of the multiverse know that Life is 'merely' one of the nine base elements (along with other, less bothersome ones like fire and water). As such, one might think that magic should be able to give wizards eternal life (many wizards indeed believe that it should). Unfortunately, transmutation - that is: changing one element into another one - is one of the hardest things there is in magic. The reason is attributed to universal stubbornness: the base elements simply refuse to change. More scientifically it is believed that because they are truly base elements, you can’t simply break them up to something smaller and then rebuild them as different elements. Instead of changing the universe (which is very easy as everything changes the universe) one needs to change the nature of the universe (which is hard).

Observant readers may argue that there are plenty of examples of elemental transformation and this is true and fair and indeed given enough magic you can transmute neighbouring elements into life fine. The problem is that “enough magic” in this case is sufficient to cease all other life in the neighbourhood.

This means that wizards – and other magic users - on the whole live exactly as long as you’d expected an average scholar of the same species to live (that is: pretty long for an elf, not quite as long for a human).

That is, at least, … good wizards.

So far all I’ve discussed was transmutation: creating life by changing other elements. Of course it is much easier to simply move existing elements about, and this is what most magic ultimately does. Of course, for the element life this means one has to take away life from something else. Hence wizards can sustain their lives by leaching it of others. This is, in polite society, not considered nice.

You may recall the witch wanting to defeat the lady of the forest? Yup, same thing.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 03:31:19 PM »

So, how old is the elven wizard we seen in the story?
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2006, 07:12:32 AM »

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So, how old is the elven wizard we seen in the story?

Which elven wizard?
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2006, 12:34:10 PM »

This wizard:

http://www.fantasycomic.com/comic.php?id=1
http://www.fantasycomic.com/comic.php?id=75
http://www.fantasycomic.com/comic.php?id=105
http://www.fantasycomic.com/comic.php?id=289
http://www.fantasycomic.com/comic.php?id=290

to be continued, possibly  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 06:51:36 PM »

Ooo! It's Alien! Anyway, are there necromancers in The World That Is? In many fantasy worlds they can extend their "life" by becoming undead. I understand this may not be the case here, however.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2006, 02:35:09 AM »

Undead were defeated in the year 1023 by means of linguistics.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 01:55:46 AM »

Wait...could you possibly elaborate on that a little, Mithandir...
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2006, 05:05:54 AM »

Hmm if it is easy to change the place of 1 element to another a significantly talented enough wizard could draw the life force of hundreds if not thousands in a city by drawing a tiny amount from each person but not enough for them to notice.

Also if they were in a city they could drain the life from animals killed in slaughter houses as well wich would be very interesting

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2007, 01:04:26 PM »

yes mithandir please elaborate

dancing one? you mean with legs?
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 02:45:57 PM »


Not getting any older if I've read comments correctly.  On that thought, is Malvanicus "Kraw-kow-tow!" a human wizard or are mages and wizards different?  He looks to be getting on a bit now though.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2009, 09:42:02 AM »

But couldn't a wizard remove the life from one thing and add it to himself?
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 11:27:42 AM »

Ooo! It's Alien! Anyway, are there necromancers in The World That Is? In many fantasy worlds they can extend their "life" by becoming undead. I understand this may not be the case here, however.

In many worlds, undead DO stole life from others. Several sources about vampires mentions that it's not the blood which is important, it's the live force it represents. I know the necromancers are supposed to become Liches, not vampires, but still.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 01:17:08 PM »

Hmm if it is easy to change the place of 1 element to another a significantly talented enough wizard could draw the life force of hundreds if not thousands in a city by drawing a tiny amount from each person but not enough for them to notice.

Also if they were in a city they could drain the life from animals killed in slaughter houses as well wich would be very interesting

Actually, it seems much less sinister if you consider taking life not from humans, but from animals or even plants ... might still not be the thing Really Good Wizard should do, but it's not something which will provoke hunts. If he is carefull enough, he might even be doing it completely legally.
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 02:33:18 PM »

another question, what if a wizard stole life force of a pixie?
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 07:05:59 PM »

I don't know if that's technically possible.
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